Jonah M. Saller
Spirituality/Belief
This is a community of Christians from various traditions striving to be "mere catholics" in the world as we proclaim Christ to all nations, and engage in ecumenical dialog with one another.
Interested? Want to learn more about the community?

Learn more first
Discussion Board Post for Trinitarian School Class

The reason that it is important to affirm that the Father, Son, and Spirt are homoousios as well as being three distinct persons is simply because if we are to be monotheists, we must affirm the unity of the Godhead. To create a disunity in substance is to become polytheistic. There is no way around this. God cannot be one if the three persons of the Trinity are all of a different being and substance. This posits that they are distinct, not simply according to their personhood, but also according to their very nature. Three persons of three different natures ultimately results in three gods.

However, with this being said, the affirmation of monotheism cannot make it such that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are identical as it relates to them as persons. First, if we conflate their persons, falling into modalism or other articulations similar to that, we cannot make sense of Scripture. Why does Jesus pray to the Father if he is the Father? (John 17:1). Why does the Father speak of Christ as his "beloved Son" if he is the Son? (Mt 3:17). Why does Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as a "he" if he is the Spirit? (John 14:25). All of these moments in Scripture logically lead to the conclusion that the Father is not the Son or the Spirit; that the Son is not the Father or the Spirit; and that the Spirit is not the Father or Son.

So, in the end, we are left with both the confession of Scripture that God is one with the explicit multiplicity in that one God. The fathers of the Church saw this too and concluded that in order to make sense of this, one had to speak of God both in terms of "one" and "triune." Thus, God is one, with Father, Son, and Spirit of one substance and yet distinct according to their personhood. These are not different gods, but all the very nature of the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The conversation surrounding perichoresis is helpful in that it further expresses—imperfectly of course—the way in which multiplicity can exist within perfect unity. In the words of Metropolitan Ware: "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit 'coinhere' in one another, each dwelling in the other two through an unceasing movement of mutual love - the 'round dance' of the Trinity" (8). This is helpful because it maintains that while the persons are distinct, they are not distinct in the way three human beings are distinct. Much of the trouble people have in understanding the Trinity is taking analogy too far. Three distinct persons in the Triune nature of God do not exist as separate individuals with different wills and actions as humans do. Instead, the unity of the persons in the Trinity is found in that they mutually indwell in one another, such that Christ can say, "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father" (Jn 14:9 ESV), and Scripture can elsewhere speak of the Holy Spirit as "the Spirit of Christ" (Rom. 8:9). This is not a confusion of the Persons of the Trinity, but rather an affirmation of their mutual indwelling of one another—in other words, their unity as sharing one homoousios. I find the emphasis on perichoresis to be one of the most helpful categories in demonstrating the oneness of the Godhead while still maintaining his Triune nature.

Works Cited:

The Holy Bible. English Standard Version. Crossway, 2016.

Ware, Timothy. "The Human Persons as an Icon of the Trinity." www.scribd.com/document/193755204/The-Human-Person-as-an-Icon-of-the-Trinity#scribd. Accessed 28 Mar. 2024.

Interested? Want to learn more about the community?

Learn more first
What else you may like…
Videos
Posts
Lent Day 1 - Ash Wednesday (Didn’t Upload Yesterday)

This is the first video reflection for the Great Fast.

00:02:30
September 29, 2022
Welcome to the Mere Catholicity Locals Community!

Welcome to the Mere Catholicity Locals Community! Here, you will find like-minded Christians with a desire to live ecumenically and pursue Christ in all things.

The Mere Catholicity movement runs only through listener support. The work that I (Jonah) do requires time and money. Without the financial support of my Locals community, I would not be able to continue making content. Simple as that. It is only thanks to this group that I can continue providing you with content that (hopefully) both edifies and challenges!

The good news for you is that joining the community itself is completely FREE! Once you sign up, you will be able to see most posts, live streams, and even content posted by other users. However, you will only be able to observe. You will not be able to comment, post, or see any exclusive content. This might be a good way to see if you want to support later down the line. So please join! Even if you cannot afford to give at this time!

Now, for those who do wish to give ...

00:04:36
Substack versus Locals

Friends - as I consider the various platforms that I operate, I find Substack to the most conducive to the model of online ministry that I am aiming for. Though I still plan to post here, as many of you still support me through this platform, Substack is where I will be focusing the majority of my time. If some of you wish to move your subscription from here to Substack, you are welcome to do that. Those who continue to support here, I will continue to post here — mostly the stuff that is behind the paywall on Substack so that you are getting the exclusive content regardless of where you are subscribed.

Hope you all are doing well. Lord bless you.

  • Rev. Jonah
Ordination to the Diaconate

I've been gone again for a time preparing for my ordination. I was ordained a Deacon in the Holy Catholic Church on March 8th, 2025.

It was a joy beyond words. I am now back in full swing with ministry, media, and work.

I hope you all have been doing well. More to come soon.

post photo preview
The Return of the Mere Catholicity Podcast

Good morning everyone. I wanted to quickly update you on the Mere Catholicity Podcast. I’ve been posting videos on my channel, but it has been quite sometime since my channel has had a podcast episode release.

With my new job as a classical teacher, scheduling interviews has been a challenge. However, my plan is to use my summer breaks as time to double down on planning and recording new podcasts. The idea will be to record a ton of interviews that will then slowly release throughout the school year, expiring around the time the following summer arrives. This will ultimately result in a consistent once a month interview.

All that to say, the podcast will resume here in May or June of 2025 with some excellent interviews lined up!

Blessings on your Sunday!

Available on mobile and TV devices
google store google store app store app store
google store google store app tv store app tv store amazon store amazon store roku store roku store
Powered by Locals